I used to be so good.
When I first joined Tuesdays with Dorie four years ago, I was very excited. And I was careful to follow the recipes as written. For my first recipe, the Brown Sugar-Apple Cheesecake (2/12/2008, can you believe it's been that long?!), I even bought a new pan, since I didn't have the 10" springform pan that was called for in the recipe. That was before I learned to make small versions of some recipes, so we didn't have the temptation here at home and I didn't always have to find other people to eat things. Then I started to play around more with the recipes, and not just in the ways that Dorie suggested. Which brings me to this week's recipe. I was excited to see that Laurie & Jules picked a bread recipe for our first week of TWD: Baking with Julia. I love to bake bread. At one point, I was baking pretty much all of the bread-type things that we ate. I've backed off a bit from that, since work and kids have been taking more of my time, but I still like to bake as much of our bread as I can. Because I've baked so many yeast loaves, I've tried a variety of different techniques and definitely have some favorites. So when I started to make the recipe for this week, I couldn't help myself. I pretty much stuck to the ingredient list, but went my own way when it came to mixing and kneading.
left - the pretty side; right - the blow out side =)
I don't make straight white bread all that often. I usually substitute some whole grain flour for part of the white flour in that sort of recipe. I figured I should try to stick with the recipe, though. It says that you can use bread flour or all-purpose flour; I decided to do half of each. I pretty much always make full recipes of bread, since we eat a fair amount of it (one loaf usually goes in the freezer). In this case, I knew we needed hot dogs buns for dinner this week, so I made one regular loaf and made rolls with the rest of the dough (some oblong, some round).
I measure pretty much everything by weight, so the first thing I did was sit down with my notebook and do some math. The information in the front of the book led me to use a weight of 5 ounces (about 140 grams) per cup of flour. That gave me just about a kilo of flour all together. I used 560 grams (20 ounces) of water, but would increase that a bit next time since the dough was rather stiff. I always use instant yeast, and since you need less of that than active dry yeast, I went with 7 grams. 13 grams of sugar, 17 grams of salt and 55 grams of butter rounds out the list of ingredients.
I started off doing the initial mixing by hand with my dough whisk. Then I switched to my stand mixer, with the dough hook. I quickly realized that wasn't going to work without overheating my mixer, so I was going to have to knead by hand. I wasn't in the mood for an extended stint of hand-kneading, especially once the butter was in there, so I went with a different method. In a lot of the Dan Lepard bread recipes I've made, you knead the dough for very short periods every ten minutes until the dough starts smooth out and the gluten is developed (3-4 periods of kneading for about 10 seconds followed by a 10 minute rest). Then you let the dough proof for about 45 minutes undisturbed. You can read more about the technique on my friend Nancy's bread blog. Once the dough finished its bulk proof, I shaped it. I used about 820 grams of dough for the loaf, and made 10 rolls of about 80 grams each. I realized after baking that I probably didn't let my shaped dough rise quite long enough--my loaf had a ton of oven spring, and ended up kind of deformed on one side. =) I baked the rolls for 20 minutes and the loaf for 35 minutes, taking the bread's temperature to make sure it was done (about 200ºF internal temperature).
The verdict? Definitely a nice white bread--it was very tasty as toast and had a nice texture. I think the hot dog buns will work out well and stand up nicely to some sauerkraut. B took one of the rolls in her lunch; I'll have to check with her later to see what she thought. G ate one of the rolls for breakfast and informed me that it was "too puffy," meaning that she'd rather have an oval roll than a round one. But except for the shape, she liked it. I doubt this will replace my other favorite white loaves, but it's always fun to try a new recipe.
If you want to try this bread for yourself, you can find the recipe in Baking with Julia or over on Julie's blog. Be sure to visit our other host, Laurie, too. And check out this week's Links to see what the hundreds of other TWD bakers thought. If you'd like to join in the fun (assuming you haven't already) you can find the sign-up info here.
Your loaves look wonderful, but I knew they would as you are one of my main inspirations for bread baking...everything you make always looks so wonderful! I had a giggle over all the changes...how far we have come, right? With you and Nancy, I always know that the recipe is going to be "tweeked" a bit and I am going to learn a lot. Leslie is going that route more often than not these days as well. I'm slow to catch on...and not that confident! So happy we are all getting back into baking for Tuesdays together. I can't believe you made this last night and have it posted this morning...you are good!
ReplyDeleteI liked this recipe and I thought it was perfect for toast, but I'll have to check out your favorite white bread recipe. Still searching for a "favorite".
ReplyDeleteYour loaves look great! I can't believe I didn't make toast at all with this recipe. Your rolls look awesome too.
ReplyDeleteI LOVE the picture of your notes about the bread...my cookbooks used to look so pristine...now they have chicken-scratching all over them. :) I know what you mean about subbing; I had to have a long talk with myself to get myself to stick to the recipe and not sub in some white whole wheat. Can't wait to hear how they worked as hot dog buns. So excited to be finally jumping on the TWD bandwagon with you all. :)
ReplyDeleteI love doing things my own way. I cant seem to help myself. Your loaves look perfect, not that Id expect anything less.
ReplyDeleteSo glad you are on board with us for round 2!
All I can say is WOW! What fabulous looking loaves. I wish we could have baked it together. Sorry the timing didn't work out. You are one great bread baker!!
ReplyDeleteGreat idea to make other shapes! Love the picture of the notebooks!
ReplyDeletei was actually wondering how this would do as rolls..glad someone gave it a try, so i could see! your loaf looks great...mine had a blowout side, too, but i think that just gives character
ReplyDeleteI've never made hot dog buns, something about the shape intimidates me. Your bread looks great. I'm not familiar with Dan Lepard but I've bookmarked his site.
ReplyDeleteIt's good to be baking again! TWD is such an awesome group of baking bloggers. I enjoyed reading your notes on this recipe. I like the idea of hotdog buns--it would make a perfect sub.
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Love your loaf and especially your rolls, they are just perfect. Dan Lepard is getting a lot of love in TWD this week! I use his method for other bread recipes also; it's just the easiest and best way to develop the dough. I used 4.5 oz/cup for the flour and it was just about right.
ReplyDeleteIt's so funny how similar we all are. As Nancy said, there sure are a lot of DL fans, and I wish I'd thought to use his method for this recipe. Your breads look perfect (and I love the blow out, I thought I was te only one who got those!)
ReplyDeleteLove how you convert everything to grams. I need to do that. And love the idea of hot dog rolls and other shapes. Very creative.
ReplyDeleteHaha, I always photograph the "pretty" side of my bread, love that you showed both sides. I need a roll shaping class from you, let me know when you start offering them :)
ReplyDeleteHi Di! Just wanted to let you know that I enjoy your blog so much that I've nominated you for the Liebster award. It is for up and coming bloggers with less than 200 followers. Congrats! You can check it out on my blog here: http://theirishmother.blogspot.com/2012/02/granola-bars-and-award.html Thanks!
ReplyDeleteI love how precise you were! I definitely wish that weight measurements were part of the book.
ReplyDeleteLoved the sub rolls & dinner rolls version!
I have gotten in the habit of using weight measurements also, and it's hard to go back! This recipe probably does make good rolls/buns - good idea.
ReplyDeleteThat is a LOT of bread. I'm going to attempt to learn how to use our bread machine, for starters :) Trying to find recipes that are not quite so sugar-laden to feed BabyT as we desensitize her to baked milk.
ReplyDeleteThis bread looks amazing! I feel lucky to have found your site and I look forward to looking around. I look forward to reading more! Have a wonderful week!
ReplyDeleteI absolutely admire you and the rest if the bread baking beauties!! Lovely job.
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